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Note to Republicans: Rock Musicians are Usually Liberal

This guy probably does not support supply-side economics.

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Looks just like a Giuliani rally don't you think?

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On the Republican side in this election cycle many if not most of the candidates have been running the "I'm the most like Ronald Reagan" campaign. This has been true during the debates, in their stump speeches, and just like when Reagan famously praised Bruce Springsteen, in the music they choose to associate with their campaigns. While campaigns don't technically need to ask permission to use these songs on the trail (this is apparently one of those elusive instances in which the RIAA will recognize fair use) recent instances of recording artists objecting to the use of their material have come to light, to hilarious effect.

Following in their mentor's footsteps two of the three remaining GOP Presidential candidates have recently been asked by the artists to stop playing certain songs at campaign stops. Representatives of John Cougar Mellencamp asked John McCain to stop playing "Our Country" and "Pink Houses" at his campaign stops stating,

''You know, here's a guy running around saying, 'I'm a true conservative.''' Merlis said. ''Well, if you're such a true conservative, why are you playing songs that have a very populist pro-labor message written by a guy who would find no argument if you characterized him as left of center?''

Mellencamp is a noted liberal and populist, and before John Edwards pulled out of the Democratic race was a vocal Edwards supporter.

Soon after, Mike Huckabee caught flak from Boston founder Tom Scholz for use of his 70s hit "More Than a Feeling." Scholz was a bit more vocal than Mellencamp when he requested the candidate halt use of his work:

"Boston has never endorsed a political candidate, and with all due respect, would not start by endorsing a candidate who is the polar opposite of most everything Boston stands for," wrote Scholz, adding that he is supporting Democratic Sen. Barack Obama. "By using my song, and my band's name Boston, you have taken something of mine and used it to promote ideas to which I am opposed."

Now, misinterpreting or ignoring the full text of a song is hardly a partisan occurrence. Presidential candidates, campaigns in general, and no small amount of music fans have displayed an inability or simple disinterest in paying attention for three to five minutes to figure out what the songs they identify with are actually saying.

It has been GOP-exclusive territory, however, for an artist to find the message of their music so diametrically opposed to a candidate's position that they felt morally inclined to publicly request a halt in the use of their work. While it's kind of comical to reflect on the fact that George W. Bush pulled four separate songs over his two campaigns for President (all at the request of the artists) it's kind of depressing to hear that Rudy Giuliani (campaigning for Emperor of the United States of Reagan) was using "Rudy Can't Fail" by The Clash at his rallies, likely causing Joe Strummer to vomit in his grave.

I'll make this pretty simple for all the present and future Republican candidates that certainly frequent Listen In. The vast majority of rock musicians have been liberal since the day conservatives in this country were decrying it as "the devil's music" in the 1950s. It's largely progressive and frequently radical, and its best creators have historically had this annoying little habit of infusing meaning into their words and caring about their art. To avoid future dust-ups such as those outlined above, it might be safest to follow the advice Scholz gave to Huckabee and,stick to music recorded by far-right Republicans..

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{"commentId":1482991,"authorDomain":"deatienza"}

I'm only kind of joking.

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  • 8 votes
Reply#1 - Mon Feb 18, 2008 1:30 PM EST
{"commentId":1483463,"authorDomain":"SVForbes"}

A good point, nonetheless.

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  • 4 votes
#1.1 - Mon Feb 18, 2008 3:41 PM EST
{"commentId":1484731,"authorDomain":"kyleb"}

Well, yeah, unless you're Johnny Ramone, or Glenn Danzig, or Billy Zoom... and those are just the conservative punk rockers.

Just sayin'. For the record and stuff.

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  • 2 votes
#1.2 - Mon Feb 18, 2008 10:41 PM EST
{"commentId":1484863,"authorDomain":"deatienza"}
Well, yeah, unless you're Johnny Ramone, or Glenn Danzig, or Billy Zoom

Or all of the Misfits. But, I mean, if you want to compare lists...

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  • 4 votes
#1.3 - Mon Feb 18, 2008 11:36 PM EST
{"commentId":1484880,"authorDomain":"kyleb"}

Hey, never questioned your premise. I was

Just sayin'. For the record and stuff.
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#1.4 - Mon Feb 18, 2008 11:46 PM EST
{"commentId":1486842,"authorDomain":"pobox522rlyeh"}

I wasn't aware Glenn Danzig and Johnny Ramone were conservative, that must have made for some interesting conversations with their fans.

I actually kind of get it with Danzig, it doesn't surprise me he'd be conservative.

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#1.5 - Tue Feb 19, 2008 2:37 PM EST
{"commentId":1486996,"authorDomain":"kyleb"}

Joey Ramone was very liberal, so that only added to their tension.

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  • 2 votes
#1.6 - Tue Feb 19, 2008 3:17 PM EST
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{"commentId":1483019,"authorDomain":"josh-of-arc"}

GOP candidates should be rushing to embrace John Ashcroft's original song Let The Mighty Eagle Soar(*) as a theme song.

Betcha he'd let Huckabee have it

-J

(*) WARNING: IF YOU LISTEN TO THE WHOLE THING, YOUR EARS WILL BLEED

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  • 11 votes
Reply#2 - Mon Feb 18, 2008 1:39 PM EST
{"commentId":1483034,"authorDomain":"deatienza"}

That was hilarious, thanks.

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  • 7 votes
#2.1 - Mon Feb 18, 2008 1:44 PM EST
{"commentId":1484184,"authorDomain":"stacym"}

Dammit, now it's in my head. I didn't even have to click the link, I'm doomed for the rest of the night.

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  • 6 votes
#2.2 - Mon Feb 18, 2008 7:23 PM EST
{"commentId":1484210,"authorDomain":"deatienza"}

That it gets in your head without you even hearing it leads me to suspect that you listen to this song often. You can tell us. You listen to it every night before you go to sleep, right? ;)

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  • 5 votes
#2.3 - Mon Feb 18, 2008 7:33 PM EST
{"commentId":1484279,"authorDomain":"stacym"}

Heavens no. Who can even think about "sleep" when that sexy man is crooning in your ear?

Seriously though, it really makes me miss Colbert's "Better know a district". Used to be in the intro.

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  • 5 votes
#2.4 - Mon Feb 18, 2008 8:04 PM EST
{"commentId":1484523,"authorDomain":"geejay"}

Well, I own the extended no-dancing mix (because dancing is the devil's fun!).

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  • 4 votes
#2.5 - Mon Feb 18, 2008 9:36 PM EST
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{"commentId":1483039,"authorDomain":"emix"}

Great article.

Damnedest thing: That pic of the guy with the flute always shows up first when I'm adding Flickr graphics to a Listen In article. I've almost used it a couple times.

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  • 7 votes
Reply#3 - Mon Feb 18, 2008 1:45 PM EST
{"commentId":1483153,"authorDomain":"chum"}

Yeah, I've found it amusing too when artists ask candidates to stop using their songs. Particularly Pink Houses--they obviously didn't understand the lyrics.

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  • 5 votes
Reply#4 - Mon Feb 18, 2008 2:15 PM EST
{"commentId":1483522,"authorDomain":"spiffie"}

The GOP's problem is that there aren't many occasions to play Cat Scratch Fever.

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  • 8 votes
Reply#5 - Mon Feb 18, 2008 3:55 PM EST
{"commentId":1484855,"authorDomain":"rugmasterstill"}

at all the NRA meetings right? lock and load baby!

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#5.1 - Mon Feb 18, 2008 11:28 PM EST
{"commentId":1488374,"authorDomain":"ejronin"}

Well... you know... I've thought about this often. The conclusions I have is that most musicians are liberals is becuase most conservatives are out trying to fix things wrong while the liberals grab a mic and whine about it.

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    #5.2 - Tue Feb 19, 2008 10:24 PM EST
    {"commentId":1488471,"authorDomain":"ejronin"}

    and uh.... wasn't Johnny Ramone like... a big republican...

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      #5.3 - Tue Feb 19, 2008 10:42 PM EST
      {"commentId":1488494,"authorDomain":"deatienza"}

      Check comment 1.2. Your double-post is late to the party ;)

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      #5.4 - Tue Feb 19, 2008 10:48 PM EST
      {"commentId":1490076,"authorDomain":"stacym"}
      Well... you know... I've thought about this often. The conclusions I have is that most musicians are liberals is becuase most conservatives are out trying to fix things wrong while the liberals grab a mic and whine about it

      You've thought about it often? Sounds like somebody has a lot of time on their hands. Maybe there is nothing wrong to fix right now? :P

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      #5.5 - Wed Feb 20, 2008 12:57 PM EST
      {"commentId":1490459,"authorDomain":"ejronin"}
      You've thought about it often? Sounds like somebody has a lot of time on their hands. Maybe there is nothing wrong to fix right now?

      Yeah... ever since I've figured out that musicians are also generally liberal and if there was nothing wrong to fix then what the hell is Obama and Hillary trying to convince me of?

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        #5.6 - Wed Feb 20, 2008 2:30 PM EST
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        {"commentId":1483986,"authorDomain":"onlineapps"}

        That's why we listen to country ;-)

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        Reply#6 - Mon Feb 18, 2008 6:16 PM EST
        {"commentId":1485349,"authorDomain":"tschreck"}
        That's why we listen to country ;-)

        that's why you have my pity andrew :-)

        "where were you...."

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        #6.1 - Tue Feb 19, 2008 5:35 AM EST
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        {"commentId":1484096,"authorDomain":"lazaruslong"}

        This is interesting; does anyone know why these artists are politely (more or less) asking candidates to stop using their music rather than threatening them with a lawsuit? Do they have some legal basis to make them stop - copyright infringement or something? Does playing a song at a campaign rally require the payment of royalties? How does this work? I honestly have no clue.

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        Reply#7 - Mon Feb 18, 2008 6:56 PM EST
        {"commentId":1484201,"authorDomain":"deatienza"}
        Do they have some legal basis to make them stop - copyright infringement or something? Does playing a song at a campaign rally require the payment of royalties?

        There's no real legal basis since things like this generally fall under the "fair use" category which exempts someone for needing to ask permission to use a work or pay royalties.

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        • 2 votes
        #7.1 - Mon Feb 18, 2008 7:32 PM EST
        {"commentId":1484211,"authorDomain":"deatienza"}
        Eric AtienzaDeleted
        {"commentId":1484713,"authorDomain":"thevineofhob"}
        rather than threatening them with a lawsuit? Do they have some legal basis to make them stop - copyright infringement or something? Does playing a song at a campaign rally require the payment of royalties? How does this work? I honestly have no clue.

        99.9% of popular artists have signed up with ASCAP to let the rights for their music to be played at a live event be sold for them. The campaigns and the venues they stop at all probably have paid for these ASCAP licenses, giving them the legal rights to play any song covered by the license at a live event.

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          #7.3 - Mon Feb 18, 2008 10:35 PM EST
          {"commentId":1485728,"authorDomain":"lazaruslong"}

          Thanks Adam, I appreciate that. So the politicians are voluntarily stopping. I think that's kind of nice of them.

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            #7.4 - Tue Feb 19, 2008 9:38 AM EST
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            {"commentId":1484703,"authorDomain":"thevineofhob"}
            While campaigns don't technically need to ask permission to use these songs on the trail (this is apparently one of those elusive instances in which the RIAA will recognize fair use)

            It's not fair use at all. It's because the campaigns and probably the venues they appear at have bought ASCAP licenses which allows them to us practically 99.9% of all popular music at a live event.

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            Reply#8 - Mon Feb 18, 2008 10:32 PM EST
            {"commentId":1484867,"authorDomain":"deatienza"}

            Ah, thanks for that.

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            #8.1 - Mon Feb 18, 2008 11:37 PM EST
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            {"commentId":1484864,"authorDomain":"rugmasterstill"}

            I'd have to say that the only people who actually give any weight to the opinions of rock stars in the political arena are feeble minded dems anyway- and the rock stars know this, and pander to their fan base to keep their popularity up, keep their names in the news. . .i.e. make money (what a good republican goal from these so called lberals!) So these kinds of comments from rock stars are only important to the type of people who care what a rock star thinks of politics. . .(unless we're discussing sonny bono before his skiing adventure)

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            • 1 vote
            Reply#9 - Mon Feb 18, 2008 11:36 PM EST
            {"commentId":1485712,"authorDomain":"lazaruslong"}

            I have to admit to a guilty pleasure in listening to their opinions - it's like watching 'The Osbournes.'

            I think most artists become liberals because there are so few conservative groupies.

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            • 2 votes
            #9.1 - Tue Feb 19, 2008 9:32 AM EST
            {"commentId":1491839,"authorDomain":"rugmasterstill"}

            But the conservative groupies are the hottest, you gotta admit- those Texas Longhorns cheerleaders are smokin' hot. . .

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              #9.2 - Wed Feb 20, 2008 9:35 PM EST
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              {"commentId":1485230,"authorDomain":"misnomer"}

              Cat Stevens.

              He will rescue the Republican Party. Or mark its downfall. Or be completely irrelevant.

              One of them is bound to be true. So I'm right regardless.

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              • 4 votes
              Reply#10 - Tue Feb 19, 2008 3:25 AM EST
              {"commentId":1485553,"authorDomain":"deatienza"}

              Yusef Islam? If he tried to get into the RNC he'd probably be sent to Gitmo ;)

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              • 6 votes
              #10.1 - Tue Feb 19, 2008 8:27 AM EST
              {"commentId":1491844,"authorDomain":"rugmasterstill"}

              Logan, what if he's slightly relevant in that he both donates and votes? ah ha! there's a fourth option. Oops, I forgot, voting doesn't matter and politicians pocket donations. Never mind, you're right.

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                #10.2 - Wed Feb 20, 2008 9:37 PM EST
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