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Fig 1.1: Not emo

Fig 1.2: I am not this guy.

Photo by Richard Faulder. (License: Creative Commons Attribution)

As has already been recapped by just about everyone that was there already, the third Newsvine Vinemeet, hosted by Adam Hobson in Philadelphia, was a blast.

Much like the first Vinemeet in Ohio it was great (and sometimes surprising) meeting people Ive interacted with digitally for up to two years. Fun times were had by all, hilarity ensued, drinks were drank, chili was made and eaten, blah blah blah, all of this has been summed up sufficiently by others before me.

In this column I'd like to focus on one particular aspect of the weekend that really struck me. Upon arriving at Adam's house on Saturday evening my long time friend, Ms. stolte-sawa, took a look at the pins on the hat I was wearing (see Fig 1.1) and delightfully squealed "That's so emo!"

Further, the next morning while waiting for breakfast I happened to mention that I disliked her pointy-toed shoes to which she replied "What do you know about fashion, you're emo."

This has so far led to Scott remarking:

Hey, what happened to that great shot of me doing the 'no papparizi please?" protest? Though Eric - mr. Emo himself - did me one better.

and to Calvin pondering:

the Eric/Emo duality

I was wiling to let S-S's initial comment slide (because when she said it, it was pretty disarmingly cute) but now that it's beginning to spread I feel I have to set this straight this gross mischaracterization.

I don't have long, stringy, unwashed hair that covers my eyes, I don't carry around a copy of Catcher in the Rye (nor do I think it's even Salinger's best book), I don't know all the words to a single song by the Cure and I don't look anything like Mike V.

Need more proof? I have (when I want to) social skills beyond the Internet, I currently maintain neither a Livejournal nor a Xanga, I didn't cry at the Texas is the Reason reunion show (in fact, I rarely ever cry due to my heart of stone), I have no piercings, I don't take pictures of myself with sad faces, I don't look up at the stars and I have a reasonable relationship with my parents.

I eat meat, I buy clothes new and when I was 16 I taped over a dub of Sunny Day Real Estate's Diary with the first New Found Glory album.

So, kind reader, the next time you see a comment on this site (or elsewhere) propagating the aforementioned falsehood kindly think of this article and remember:

I am not emo.

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{"commentId":1181972,"authorDomain":"deatienza"}

Eric Atienza

I'm well aware that the most emo thing anyone can possibly do is insist they aren't emo. This article, however, was a special request and I do take requests from time to time.

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5 votes

#1 - Tue Nov 13, 2007 1:22 PM EST

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Ryan Stolte-Sawa

Taking requests is pretty emo, too. Will you sing "Just Watch the Fireworks" for us? I need to cry a little after reading this.

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8 votes

#1.1 - Tue Nov 13, 2007 1:28 PM EST

{"commentId":1182088,"authorDomain":"deatienza"}

Eric Atienza

I think admitting that you cry to "Just Watch the Fireworks" makes you emo.

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6 votes

#1.2 - Tue Nov 13, 2007 2:02 PM EST

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Ryan Stolte-Sawa

Excuse me, do I wear Sambas and 1" pins? I don't think so.

...But I used to. Shhh!

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5 votes

#1.3 - Tue Nov 13, 2007 4:20 PM EST

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StacyM

Ryan, will you please tell Eric that the topic of this discussion is Eric's flirtation with the emo lifestyle, and not anyone else's? When I write a whiny emo article about not being a whiny emo kid, then we can discuss my whiny emo tendancies. But until then, the spotlight is on him!

(I would tell him but I'm not talking to him).

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5 votes

#1.4 - Tue Nov 13, 2007 4:56 PM EST

{"commentId":1182741,"authorDomain":"deatienza"}

Eric Atienza

(I would tell him but I'm not talking to him).

This tactic is very clever. Per comment 2, anything I say right now to make you talk to me will only prove Ryan's point correct.

Who thought it would be so uncomfortable getting double teamed by Ryan and Stacy? ;)

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8 votes

#1.5 - Tue Nov 13, 2007 5:01 PM EST

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Brian Ford

Who thought it would be so uncomfortable getting double teamed by Ryan and Stacy? ;)

Me.

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7 votes

#1.6 - Tue Nov 13, 2007 5:10 PM EST

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Ryan Stolte-Sawa

Eric, Stacy wants me to tell you that the topic of this discussion is your flirtation with the emo lifestyle, and not anyone else's, and that when she writes a whiny emo article about not being a whiny emo kid, then you and she can discuss her whiny emo tendancies. But until then, the spotlight is on you!

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7 votes

#1.7 - Tue Nov 13, 2007 6:09 PM EST

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Scott (Scoop) Butki

Why are you two not talking? Just because of the Sunny Day Real Estate thing? What ever happened to them?

What's wrong with being mistaken for being emo? Sorry if I irked you or hit upon a personal pet peeve. I thought you liked some emo bands and that the hat with the rock, paper scissor thing was emo. Maybe it was just a big city and/or NYC thing.

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#1.8 - Sat Nov 17, 2007 12:18 AM EST

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Eric Atienza

Just because of the Sunny Day Real Estate thing? What ever happened to them?

Per the curse of emo bands, they cut three records and broke up. (The curse is actually cut up to three good records and break up or cut up to three good records and start sucking.)

What's wrong with being mistaken for being emo?

The humor tag is my friend.

Maybe it was just a big city and/or NYC thing.

I didn't really think about it when I put them on. I saw the buttons at a craft fair and thought "I want to put those on my hat."

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2 votes

#1.9 - Sat Nov 17, 2007 12:31 AM EST

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Scott (Scoop) Butki

wait, does that mean Sunny Day Real Estate were emo? I thought they were just another shoegazer band

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1 vote

#1.10 - Sat Nov 17, 2007 12:36 AM EST

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Eric Atienza

You should read Nothing Feels Good.

Stop reading when it starts talking about Dashboard Confessional.

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2 votes

#1.11 - Sat Nov 17, 2007 12:46 AM EST

{"commentId":1193565,"authorDomain":"sbutki"}

Scott (Scoop) Butki

OK. That's a book? For someone not emo you seem to know a lot about emo:)

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#1.12 - Sat Nov 17, 2007 9:59 AM EST

{"commentId":1182015,"authorDomain":"stacym"}

StacyM

I was excited to see the label, it opens up many opportunities to use this. ;)

I taped over a dub of Sunny Day Real Estate's Diary with the first New Found Glory album.

We are no longer on speaking terms.

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5 votes

#2 - Tue Nov 13, 2007 1:36 PM EST

{"commentId":1182023,"authorDomain":"deatienza"}

Eric Atienza

I was 16. A year earlier all I listened to was Metallica.

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4 votes

#2.1 - Tue Nov 13, 2007 1:37 PM EST

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StacyM

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#2.2 - Tue Nov 13, 2007 2:55 PM EST

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Eric Atienza

Sounds to me like you're the one that's more than a little emo. Didn't you say you cried when Elliott Smith died?

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3 votes

#2.3 - Tue Nov 13, 2007 2:59 PM EST

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vicaxp

You may not be emo, but he is!

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3 votes

#3 - Tue Nov 13, 2007 1:54 PM EST

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Adam Hobson

I don't know all the words to a single song by the Cure

I have a problem with your characterization of The Cure as emo. I think that makes you emo.

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2 votes

#4 - Tue Nov 13, 2007 1:56 PM EST

{"commentId":1182093,"authorDomain":"deatienza"}

Eric Atienza

The Cure aren't emo, but emokids like the Cure.

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4 votes

#4.1 - Tue Nov 13, 2007 2:03 PM EST

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Brian Ford

Further, the next morning while waiting for breakfast I happened to mention that I disliked her pointy-toed shoes to which she replied "What do you know about fashion, you're emo."

At one point, I took her fashion tips seriously. And then I found out she wore pointy-toed shoes. I'm so confused.

I think I brought this video up at the vinemeet -- but I've found it for everyone's enjoyment.

Newscast about emo kids.

The explanation of why their hair covers just one of their eyes is hilarious.

(I'm pretty sure this is the right one, I can't check the link right now -- if not I'll hunt down the correct version later.)

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5 votes

#5 - Tue Nov 13, 2007 2:08 PM EST

{"commentId":1183061,"authorDomain":"deatienza"}

Eric Atienza

Your link doesn't work for me.

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1 vote

#5.1 - Tue Nov 13, 2007 7:14 PM EST

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Brian Ford

This works.

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1 vote

#5.2 - Tue Nov 13, 2007 9:47 PM EST

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Brian Ford

Heheh, I forgot all about the "point system" which was clearly just a joke that these "newscasters" took far too seriously, in order to scare some parents into watching their station.

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2 votes

#5.3 - Tue Nov 13, 2007 9:51 PM EST

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Adam Hobson

emo is short for emotional

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2 votes

#5.4 - Tue Nov 13, 2007 9:59 PM EST

{"commentId":1183420,"authorDomain":"deatienza"}

Eric Atienza

Wow. That's probably the worst thing I've ever seen.

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1 vote

#5.5 - Tue Nov 13, 2007 10:20 PM EST

{"commentId":1182172,"authorDomain":"kwuark"}

kwuark

You really don't look at the stars? How sad, emo boy.

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4 votes

#6 - Tue Nov 13, 2007 2:27 PM EST

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StacyM

The stars bring him no joy in this angst-ridden world....

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4 votes

#6.1 - Tue Nov 13, 2007 2:58 PM EST

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David Mc Girr

....I look at the planets.
Thus is the clarity afforded in Irish skies.
I win all games. And are you implying that sailors that navigated by the starts were emo?

Screw your labels. I'm going to write some poetry.
Difference is, my poetry is GOOD.

-Dave

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1 vote

#6.2 - Thu Nov 15, 2007 6:51 PM EST

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Brandon Kiser

I don't look up at the stars

Crap. I've always said I have 0 emo qualities, but apparently I do have 1.

I was never aware that looking at the stars is an emo thing.

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3 votes

#7 - Tue Nov 13, 2007 6:57 PM EST

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rottlady

I had to look emo up in the Urban Dictionary,

This is what it said. I agree your not emo. IMHO..... :>)

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2 votes

#8 - Tue Nov 13, 2007 7:08 PM EST

{"commentId":1183448,"authorDomain":"vikibabbles"}

Viki Babbles Gonia

You're not emo. I believe you. Now stop whining.

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3 votes

#9 - Tue Nov 13, 2007 10:36 PM EST

{"commentId":1183530,"authorDomain":"celestina"}

Celestina

I know you're not emo, Eric. I mean, the first time I noticed you on the 'vine was due to your mention of Jawbreaker, and they're punk, not emo. Never mind that the reason I like them is that there is a little bit of Blake's actual soul in every damned song, and the conversation we had once where you were sucked into agreeing with me on that point. Hell, never mind the point that all you ever write about whatsoever is music, and how music is the way to the...something, of the someone. Anyway, my point is that no one would ever accuse you of being emo. But I know your secrets. 'Cause I still have that ephemeris...

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1 vote

#10 - Tue Nov 13, 2007 11:18 PM EST

{"commentId":1183538,"authorDomain":"deatienza"}

Eric Atienza

Quiet, you!

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1 vote

#10.1 - Tue Nov 13, 2007 11:21 PM EST

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Adam Hobson

and they're punk, not emo.

Way back before emo was pop, emo was punk.

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1 vote

#10.2 - Tue Nov 13, 2007 11:25 PM EST

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Calvin Tang

Emo: The Color of My Soul

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5 votes

#11 - Tue Nov 13, 2007 11:37 PM EST

{"commentId":1184133,"authorDomain":"deatienza"}

Eric Atienza

That was much better than the newscast Brian linked to.

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5 votes

#11.1 - Wed Nov 14, 2007 8:11 AM EST

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Calvin Tang

May I call you EmotienZa? It has a nice ring to it.

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3 votes

#11.2 - Fri Nov 16, 2007 1:28 AM EST

{"commentId":1190568,"authorDomain":"deatienza"}

Eric Atienza

I've learned that as far as nicknames go, it doesn't really matter if I say yes or no...

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#11.3 - Fri Nov 16, 2007 7:49 AM EST

{"commentId":1197111,"authorDomain":"sbutki"}

Scott (Scoop) Butki

I think he's asking her for us to come up with some nickname suggestions

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1 vote

#11.4 - Sun Nov 18, 2007 7:51 PM EST

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Yuriy Bilokonsky

I don't know all the words to a single song by the Cure and I don't look anything like Mike V.

I totally trounced him on that thread. I don't know why I didn't get more votes. Pshaw. I'm going to go cut myself. Any pointers for me, Eric?

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1 vote

#12 - Sun Nov 18, 2007 6:44 PM EST

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Evan Mix

and to Calvin pondering:

the Eric/Emo duality

That's more of a singularity, isn't it?

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3 votes

#13 - Fri Nov 23, 2007 12:12 AM EST

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Calvin Tang

It's more like the wave/particle duality. Both one in the same, but distinct properties leading to dark, tight clothes and self-loathing.

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3 votes

#13.1 - Fri Nov 23, 2007 2:25 AM EST

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Evan Mix

Ha!

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1 vote

#13.2 - Fri Nov 23, 2007 11:38 AM EST

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